1. Analyse the causes of the Great Depression (06).
2. To what extent was the Wall Street Crash a cause of the Great Depression of 1929? (07)
3. How effective was Hoover at battling the Great Depression?
4. The Great Depression changed government’s view of its role and responsibility.” To what extent do you agree with this statement? (08)
5. In what ways and with what success did the government of one country in the region try to solve the problems of the Great Depression? (09)
6. Why was there opposition to the New Deal policies of Franklin D. Roosevelt? (10)
7. Assess the impact of the Great Depression on one country in the region.
8. How was popular culture affected by the Great Depression?
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Thank you very much for the questions. Are we going to talk about other countries in the depression or just the US?
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I was thinking maybe you could use the last one in some way, shape, or form next time you teach Texas.
I have to ask. Has anyone ever done an IA on Camp O'Donnell? Did you choose the name of the blog because of it?
Josh
Working on planning essays earlier this unit. With #3 could we argue that Hoover was ineffective because of not understanding the situation well at the outbreak, taking time to ramp up the aid programs and not subsequently being in office long enough to see changes, or would the detail be to slim? I was thinking that a lot of his programs ended up in some form in the new deal, etc.
On number one are we trying to take a "to what extent" stand, or just analyzing all of them since the "to what extent" is covered in 2?
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Mr. O. I found this hilarious.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13158351
Accidental Terrorism.
Josh,
I think at some point, you have to recognize that one of Hoover's greatest weaknesses has nothing to do with a program. He has a great deal of difficulty convincing the American people that he "gets" the problems. The Bonus Army is the most egregious example of that. I think his speed of reaction is a good point. I would also look at the fact that he only focuses on the supply side.
Natalie-You do not have to go with the to what extent. However, when you analyze some evaluative standard can help you strengthen your essay.
AH! mr o. so, i was looking at the pre-depression culture and was acusing the Federal Music, Writing, and Theatre projects as outlandish, yet could you argue that (at least for the elite) the time period was more "rightly" focused on the values of art whereas it seems we are a highly sports driven society now (new budget cuts and the crazy, completely excess, mulit million dollar tv thing for Legends). Is this why the Eurpoean society prospered so much by Western standards, because they had economic comfort?
Emma,
Whether it is "right" or not is a value statement based on your own views. The reason for the program only partially had to do with artistic ventures. Its primary goal was to keep those workers from being forced to enter the workforce and compete for jobs. The NYA, for example, was trying to keep youth out of the job market that adults were struggling in. As for Western culture, I would argue that leisure activities thrive when there is economic wealth available...that goes for both sports and art.
Hey i sent you the link on your email and here is the un-revised-by-Mr.O flash cards I can post the others that he does revise LATE tomorrow night or someone else will
http://quizlet.com/5254181/mr-osthe-great-depression-new-deal-programs-flash-cards/
Alphabet soup help please :)
Which of these do you like most?
http://www.fdrheritage.org/new_deal.htm
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1851.html
http://www.angelfire.com/oh4/newdeal/
http://faculty.washington.edu/qtaylor/Courses/101_USH/new_deal.htm
If you dislike all of these do you know a good one? I would really appreciate the help.
Josh
Josh,
I like my notes that I gave you in class. These are what I write my quiz off of. If you need flashcards, Ashley has created some.
What is the gap argument again? all i have is the next wave hasn't hit yet. and I don't what else there is to that?
Hello Mr. O :)
This is Paige, jacking Ashley's computer. We (Kayla, Ashley and I) were wondering about the Hoover's tightening of the currency and other immediate reactions that he did after the stock market crash that would have caused/worsened the Great Depression. Thanx, and have a good sunny Sunday :)
Mr. O. Since IB likes us to contrast various ideas, what details would you use to support the stock market having a strong effect? I intend to address the question as the stock market had a spark plug effect but did not per-say cause the depression. The cause I would place as a mixture of most of the prominent historiographies (Europe, Banks, Farming and Industry, Credit, etc.). However I feel that IB would want me to specifically give evidence for the Stock market and then rebuke it. Ergo buckets of Stock market as part of speculation, followed by Unstable economy, and sudden mass paranoia (Hawley-Smoot, Withdrawing money from banks, banks going out of business, everyone selling shares, people buying very little.) In particular a stock market crash of a similar nature that wasn't so bad would be really useful.
Josh-I am not sure that you are going to rebuke it as much as argue that it could have caused a recession, but the other aspects are what truly created a cataclysmic event. You would want to walk through, like we did in class, the effect on banks, main street, and the corporate world.
Ashley-It would be easier if your were a little more specific in your questions. Are you referencing the wage "gap?" If so, it addresses the fact that there wasn't a large enough population with purchasing power to make this a more shallow recession. Also, many people in the middle and lower classes were buying on credit.
As for the tightening of credit, I am not sure all of what you are asking for. He allowed credit to be tightened, supported the Hawley-Smoot tariff and set up the Reconstruction Finance Corporation.
I know this is compleatly irrelevent, but Canadian Elections are tonight....
What country/region or you referring to in 7?
what is an example of a time when there was a (example) natural disaster and the government didn't help out before FDR shook up the government's role? Like, the opposite of Katriana
Vale,
As I mentioned in class, this is how the IB test will ask the question. You will always pick the U.S. Do not pick Mexico, Canada, Cuba, Brazil, Argentina, or Parador.
Emma-Galveston Hurricane or SF earthquake
OH CANADA...
For question 1, I am using Bernstein and Galbraith as historians under overproduction and overspending on credit. Would Zinn work too, or would he be too radical and hard to link with the other two?
Bailey,
I think I would avoid Zinn on that one, unless you are taking a particularly radical position.
Some Questions while Bucketing:
1. Which program of the New Deal was least effective?
2. For #8, I am missing a third bucket. My other two are federal programs and sports...any suggestions? Possible Reworking?
Carl,
Wow, there were a number of them that were roundly criticized, but I would argue that the CWA comes to mind because it is so highly criticized that the FDR Admin ends it relatively quickly.
As for question 8, I like the first point, but not the second. I would suggest to you that you need to deal with the escapism issue and the material that is reflective of the Depression
Ok cool.
More questions
1. For #2, I use Galbraith's thesis to outline the causes. I have included the more lavish lifestyle of the middle class, and America and europes changing roles, especially regarding farming. Are there important points that I am not covering, another bucket perhaps?
2. How many different causes are needed for #1? Should we have three, and each have them as a bucket? It seems like there would be too much information to fit each into a bucket...
Mr. O
on #7, what could be an effective structure? We have lots and lots of information on women and minorities, but I know there's more to it. Maybe government control?
Mr. O. on 8 I am having trouble coming up with more buckets than escapism and fear. I have a suspicion that I am lumping to much together here.
Josh
Josh-How about adding a bucket that just deal with government financed culture?
Justin-#7 is one of those topics that you have to take a massively large perspective. By thinking of different ways to look at the topic, you can find your buckets. Certainly, their is an impact on the people of the time, there is an impact on the politics of the time, and their is an impact on the way we view government. Further impacts include culture, minorities, and international. You have to select the most important and address them realizing that you will not be able to get every detail in because each of these points could be its own essay.
Carl-On Q1-Where are you putting the currency tightening and the refusal to leave the Gold Standard? How about the supply side issues during the 1920s such as overproduction.
On Q2 is is critical that you make your bucket big enough to cover your basic points. That becomes the challenge in answering the question.
Yeah that works. For some reason I was putting a lot of that in escapism, and countering fear. Thanks :)
Hello Mr.O, i was wondering on q#8 what to do for buckets...i was escapism, gov't program/intervention, but then i don't know another one. i looked at previous questions and coutering fear was an option but i don't know what to fill it with
oh nvm, i think i found something that'll work...
Megan,
I am glad we could have this conversation.
oh me too, sorry i asked before i really thought about it
Megan, When you see a post by me and like something, ask me to clarify what I am thinking. Mr. O. will verify that I think in tangents and do things in weird ways. For example in "fear" I was going to talk about the mass panic in America during the depression and the mindset it left for future years.
Mr. O., For number 8 would talking about changes in political culture be appropriate at all?
Josh, ok thanks i'll keep that in mind for next time
Mr. O,
I have been having a difficult time deciding if I am taking the right approach with Questions 1 and 2. I decided early on that I think the causation to be a combination of govermental response, the econonomic order of the 1920's, and what I have termed as "National Tendencies" to talk about the consumer spending and the Crash as a spark. Am I missing a huge peice to the puzzle?
Laura, Are you thinking about the closing European market the Banking panic as well? You might also want to mention the dust bowl as an aggravator. (Yes Mr. O. I know it wasn't a cause per say)
Mr. O
I'm having some trouble wrapping my mind around Question 4. I was thinking of looking at Hoover's policies and how they compaired to Roosevelt's. am I on the right track?
hello mr.o, i was wondering on q#7 if i did buckets of minorities, culture, and women would that be ok? or would i be missing something?
Mr. O i need a third bucket for 2, i have capital withdrawal and enumployement and i need one more. any suggestions?
Mr. O,
Do we have any historiography about Hoover for number 3? I couldn't think of any..
Mr.O or anyone,
i need help bucketing #5. i mean the new deal should be in there somewhere...
Mr. O
do you know of any historians that would be useful on question 8?
Hey Ben. I don't know if you're still around, but I'm using Schlesinger, Commager and Freidel, who basically said that the nation was kinda just drifting along under Hoover. Not sure if it really helps, but it's worth a shot. :)
Oh, and Megan, Mr. O, in my class, said that a good way to bucket one of these questions was banking, farming and industry, and unemployment and housing. I'm not sure if it was this one, but that's what I'm planning on doing. O'Donnell, what do you think?
Josh-Sticking to culture and not politics is best. Otherwise, you may be frowned upon by the Lords of IB.
Laura-Josh is right. Boy, it is scary saying that. Farming could fit in the 20's point though. You must hit the banking issue though.
Justin-I think that is a good internal structure, but as a the external it could lead to ships passing in the night. You could look towards reform, recovery, and relief or you could pick specific issue and trends.
Megan,
I think you are too narrow on #7. What about the entire interaction with the government piece? I like the idea of addressing the poor and possibly sticking minorities/women into a third bucket. Just a thought.
Nick-I question unemployment as I think it is more of an effect than a cause. Think about the economic conditions of the 1920s and the effect of the stock market crash.
Ben-You can cross apply some of the causes stuff on Hoover. Remember he was the Commerce Secretary who advocated laissez faire and Mellon economic philosophy. As for attitude, you can cite Doris Kearns Goodwin.
Do I detect a somewhat facetious tone? 4. is annoying me. I look at it and think easy but I have trouble separating it into 3 parts. I could do pre-hoover, hoover, roosevelt. but would that be effective?
Josh, what I found was the most effective was sort of doing a structure as follows.
1. Relief
2. Recovery
3. Reform
Within these buckets, identify the old approach (Pre-Hoover and Hoover) compared with FDR's approach. It makes it nice and easy in my opinion. Hope it helps!
On 6. why was the NIRA etc. determined to be unconstitutional?
Also out of curiosity, why does the supreme court condemn entire bills? Couldn't they just remove clauses most of the time? It would complicate things a little but would lead to much less legislative frustration in the long run.
Laura, that does help a lot as an alternate. Thanks
Bria-The point of that structure is that it addresses the demand side, supply side, and the banking crisis. The only problem is you need to get into the demand side the unemployment issue. The other possibility is to address it like FDR did - Relief, Recovery, and Reform.
Justin-Cultural history is a relatively new field. We used to examine it as culture without looking at its connection to the economic trends. Morris Dickstein seems to hit well upon some of the asymmetry.
Mr. O,
Sorry for bombarding you with questions, but for Question Number 8 would this bucket structure work in terms of focusing specifically on the Depression?
1. Government funded programs
2. Escapism fueled culture
3. Culture that "celebrated" or emphasized the Sentiment of the Depression
Josh - Laura is quite a brilliant child even if she does furrow her brows at you. That structure works well.
Josh-The NRA and NIRA are shot down because they pass code making to an agency rather than leave it in the hands of Congress. In other words, these boards are implementing agreements that aren't allowed by the Constitution except by the an act of Congress. The sick chicken case was the one that got to the Supreme Court and was the basis for nullifying the law.
Laura - That looks good to me.
Thank you so much Mr. O!
What kind of nation are we to have major legal cases about sick chickens? Then again we do invest in tulips and California...
with 3. We can talk about what he did, and why it didn't work very well, but is there a good statistic to say why things could have been worse, i.e. there was some improvement due to programs.
Mr O,
I am trying to break out of my political, economic, and social bucketing strategy, but I am coming up short for a more specialized structure for Question 7. I was possibly thinking of looking towards something about the national attitude of charity and dependency, but I do not know. Any suggestions?
Hm. Laura. Honestly as much as economic, social, political seems wrong to me for most things, it is pretty much perfect for hitting Q7 comprehensively. I might try to beef up social a little with stuff that could fit in multiple buckets.
Josh - We can't know what might have happened, and quite frankly, most historians don't think it did much good because it was so small. I also might talk about what he refused to to do.
Laura-How about the role of government and its relationship with society. You also want to address who the New Deal helped and maybe those who weren't assisted as well.
Hmm...looking at my outline, that fits really nicely with what I have. Would you say that a bucketing structure of Changes of Government Power and Role, Economic Shift - discuss the reform of SEC, regulation, and Keynesian economics, and finally a Minorities/Women bucket for social. Does that fit everything in a comprehensive structure?
Mr. O!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!
I hope you had a great Friday. And if not, have a great rest of your day today because it's your birthday week. I love birthdays, they are so much fun. The only sucky part is for the mother who went through all the pain and has to clean up birthday cake mess without acknowledgement of her excruciating torment.
But then again, I guess that is what Mother's Day is for. OH! Mr. O! did FDR invent mother's day to raise morale and boost the economy cause that would be an awesome attention getter. And really smart. And really thoughtful. It would be the best mother's day present ever.
Laura-Broaden the Women/Minorities point to include the poor and you have a decent structure.
Emma-Yes, that was the whole point of Mother's Day. It was a really an attempt to help florists. Thanks for the birthday wishes.
Mr. O. you can be so unusually cruel some days.
Emma. Mothers day was officially designated during the wilson administration; Roosevelt did commision a stamp however, in 1934.
Also, the creator of Mother's Day later denounced it as too commercialized. Perhaps that was truly an anti-FDR critique which could be used in question 6.
Time for bed. Good night and Good luck.
She (the daughter) was mad at the holiday in the early 20s. The mother died in 1905.
Somehow I feel that you are trying to toss me squirrels for the test tomorrow
pa
happy VE day everyone
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